Fish vs Groveler: Which Is Better for Your Everyday Waves?
Choose between a fish and a groveler by looking at your waves, your turns, and the boards themselves—not the label on the rack.
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Clear choices, real model specs, and honest tradeoffs. Start with the waves you actually surf, then compare boards that fit the job.
How we write these guides
We compare published specs and design notes, cite the sources, and call out what those details cannot tell you. These are buying guides, not claimed ride tests.
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Choose between a fish and a groveler by looking at your waves, your turns, and the boards themselves—not the label on the rack.
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Read the guideCompare the CI Mid and M-23 by outline, fins, stock dimensions and the turns you want to make before choosing your next Channel Islands board.
Read the guideChoose a small-wave surfboard by the waves you surf and the turns you want, with practical options from longboards to grovelers.
Read the guideUse volume to narrow your next surfboard, then check the outline, rocker, rails, waves, and the board you already ride.
Read the guideCompare the Seaside, Mashup, and Dominator 2.0 by wave type, shape, fins, and real stock dimensions before choosing your next Firewire.
Read the guideThere is no magic liter cutoff for duck diving. Learn what board buoyancy, shape, technique and your usual waves mean for your next purchase.
Read the guideReturning to surfing after a long break? Reassess your wave count and choose a comeback board for the waves you surf now.
Read the guideReplace a discontinued surfboard by tracing what your actual board does well, then comparing current shapes without expecting an exact clone.
Read the guideChoose a child's surfboard by what they can do in the water, not age alone. Compare soft boards for first rides, independent surfing and the next step.
Read the guideA bigger performance shortboard can help—or leave the same design mismatch. Learn when to size up and when to choose another shape.
Read the guideA mid-length and a fish can both expand a one-board quiver. Choose by the waves you miss, the turns you want, and what your first board already does well.
Read the guideChoose a mid-length or longboard by your usual waves, current skills and the style you want to learn—not a length label alone.
Read the guideNeed one surfboard for most sessions? Start with your usual waves, then choose the tradeoffs in shape, size and style you can actually live with.
Read the guideMore foam can help, but it is only part of the fit. Choose a surfboard for your waves, paddling, stance and turns—not a weight chart alone.
Read the guideBuild a two-board quiver around the sessions your current board misses, with a simple way to spot useful range and expensive overlap.
Read the guideA weekend surf schedule changes the buying decision. Choose a board for your actual waves, current skills and the rides you can fit into each session.
Read the guideLove the idea of a CI Mid? Compare the Pyzel Mid Length Crisis, Firewire Seaside & Beyond and Lost Smooth Operator before buying.
Read the guideThe original Dominator and Dominator 2.0 share a name, but Firewire changed the tail, rails and bottom. Here's what that means when buying used.
Read the guideCompare Channel Islands' Happy Everyday and Two Happy by rocker, stock dimensions, and the waves you actually surf.
Read the guideFrom Mod Fun to Comp2, see what five Torq shapes are built to do, where they overlap, and which tradeoffs matter before you buy.
Read the guideCheck the fin boxes before you buy: FCS II and Futures do not share shortboard fins, but older FCS fins have one useful compatibility option.
Read the guidePU and EPS name the foam; polyester and epoxy name the resin. Learn what changes in a surfboard build and what to ask before you buy.
Read the guideLearn what length, width, thickness and volume actually tell you about a surfboard, using three near-30-liter boards with very different jobs.
Read the guideDecode 4 oz and 6 oz glassing schedules, compare deck and bottom layers, and ask better questions about weight and durability before buying a board.
Read the guideLearn what nose and tail rocker do, where flatter or curvier boards make sense, and how to compare real surfboards before you buy.
Read the guideLearn what squash, round, swallow and pin tails suggest about a surfboard, and how to choose by the whole shape and your usual waves.
Read the guideTwin, thruster or quad? Compare how each setup changes a board's feel, where it fits, and what to check before buying.
Read the guideLearn when a ding is a manageable repair, when to get a professional assessment, and how to judge the real cost of a damaged surfboard.
Read the guidePrice a used surfboard with comparable sales, honest condition notes, and your local market—without mistaking asking prices for what buyers paid.
Read the guideMake a used surfboard listing buyers can trust: photograph the real board, show every repair, name the exact specs, and agree on handoff details.
Read the guideDecode logos, handwritten dimensions, serial numbers and fin boxes in a used-board listing without mistaking a likely match for proof.
Read the guideCompare a used premium surfboard with a new value board by fit, hidden repairs, warranty, fins and the real cost of getting in the water.
Read the guideInspect a used surfboard for open dings, soft spots, repairs and fin-box damage, then work out the real cost before you hand over money.
Read the guideAn asym surfboard changes the two sides for different jobs. Learn how stance, fins, wave type and sizing affect your first asym purchase.
Read the guideA custom surfboard can solve a specific fit problem. Learn when a stock model is the smarter buy and what to ask before ordering your own shape.
Read the guideChoosing between a noserider and a performance longboard? Compare the waves, footwork, turns, and real board designs behind each style.
Read the guideOne board bag, changing waves: choose a surf-trip board around the surf you can ride, airline limits, and what you can rent when conditions shift.
Read the guideYour ocean board may be the best place to start at a surf pool. Choose by the wave format, booked setting, your skill and the venue's equipment rules.
Read the guideKnow when your daily board has reached its limit, what a step-up changes, and how to choose one for the stronger waves you actually surf.
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